The myth of the myth of sympathy after October 7th

Self gaslighting

It was Succos last week. I don’t want to be all frummy, but I don’t think you are supposed to be substacking on Succos. Either you are doing this for money, in which case it’s work you can put off till after, or you are doing it for free to promote your ideas or something [lol: Gay], in which case pull out a chumash for once. At least make a token effort. But these were tough times for schizo Jewish bloggers because it was not just Succos but also the October 7th anniversary and the occasion of a ceasefire deal all at the same time, and I’m supposed to express some kind of opinion about it, as if I have some unique insight that I gleaned from being on the computer or whatever. But no time. So, for the record, official NonZionism takes:

October 7th: I’m against it.
Ceasefire deal: I’m for it.

Anyway, I’m not so frummy that I didn’t read some October 7th retrospectives. The best one by Kyle Orton who has a good blog with interesting notes about lots of bits of history. Like every hasbarist who doesn’t exhibit severe, self-induced cognitive impairment, he is a gentile, and, if I may be so bold as to say, he is a good example of someone who is predisposed to having a positive opinion of Israel by virtue of exposure to golus Jews who do stuff like dress themselves properly, speak in sentences, use a knife and fork and all that stuff we got rid of here, combined with exposure to British Muslims [the technical term is ‘Paki’] who are mostly just shit. October 7th hit this type hard because the Jews who were murdered on that day were largely from the Israeli demographic most similar to the Jews they like at home, and some of them were actually literally the Jews they like at home.

Anyway, it’s a good post and I recommend reading it, especially if you are a peacenik fag like me because we do need to be reminded both of how bad October 7th was and of how sick and messed up Palestinian national culture is from time to time. Ultimately, getting out of this mess is going to require Palestinians building something they can be proud of, but it’s a tough nut to crack because obviously the rational move for any individual Palestinian who isn’t an idiot is to become something else.

An all-time great

However, there is one paragraph which is just wrong and that’s what we’ll concentrate on today:

Contrary to the myth-making that Israel received a wave of sympathy after 7 October that evaporated because of its actions in Gaza, in the days after the pogrom, the only use of the term “genocide” was against Israel. This was of a piece with the broad popular reaction around the world, including in cities across the West, to seeing Jews suffer, which was a level of ecstasy exceeded only by HAMAS while inflicting it. In Sydney, while HAMAS still held territory within Israel, the main chant of the “pro-Palestinian” revellers was, “Gas the Jews”. Ripping down posters of the Israeli hostages became a craze.

I think a very large proportion of pro-Israel Jews sincerely believe this is so, because they desperately want it to be so, but it’s not so.

Everyone knows about the demonstration that night in Sydney because it was the only one of its kind. Here’s a video:

It’s maybe 300 people all of whom are brownoids and all, or close to all, are Islamists. They are shouting Allahu Akbar.

Yes, yes, they suck, they should be deported yesterday; all obvious. You know who that isn’t representative of? Anything. We’ve all heard about this event hundreds of times, because there weren’t any hundreds of other events for us to hear about. From the 9th of October, anti-Israel protests started kicking off in earnest, now with a more communist slant piloted at Time Square. At these protests, you could find people with paragliders T-shirts and similar obscenities if you looked hard enough. Famously, someone at the DSA made a very revolting comment about ‘hipsters’ at the Nova drug rave. Apart from that it’s all stuff on Twitter.

Twitter, as we know, is the dregs of humanity sucking the rest into its orbit in a giant pyramid scheme of depravity. Three specific groups of dreg reacted to October 7th with joy: tankies, Islamists and Nazis. Doubtless this was all very sick and disgusting and the response of the great mass of white humanity was to be disgusted. Here is the general sentiment expressed by avatar of centrism so centrist that his centrism transcends mere policies and is pure essence, Matthew Yglesias:

In Kyle Orton’s native Britain, the closest thing to a person of note celebrating October 7th was dumb bitch (((Rivka Brown))), editor of dipstick Leftist magazine Novara, who then apologised 4 days later, because the backlash was such that you had to at least pretend to be appalled even to be a commie in good standing. Feeling in the UK was so strong that Keir Starmer appeared to affirm that Israel had the right to deny water to the residents of Gaza [?]. Rivka was right to be prudent, here’s an article from the Guardian whining about how various jerks in showbiz were losing their jobs for Palestinoidism. There were a few weeks where it felt like it was a new law that proper politicians needed to walk around burnt out kibbutzim on the Gaza border gaining understanding about something by looking at walls with bullet holes in them. People were seriously talking about a new pro-Israel cancel culture. Serious conservative strategists were looking at ways to leverage disgust at the October 7th-tainted Left into a permanent political alignment and, up to a point, they pulled it off.

Kyle Orton makes much of the ‘craze’ of young women driven crazy by oral contraception and whatnot ripping down hostage posters. But this patently was an act of desperation by Palestinoids distraught at their catastrophic defeat in the PR war, and all they achieved was making it worse. What kind of psycho cat lady rips down a hostage poster? Palestinoids who weren’t completely dumb were keeping their mouth shut until Israel killed enough people to make it their turn, which brings us to the next point.

I have heard at least a dozen times Douglas Murray make the point that protests in support of Gaza started before Israel had even responded. It’s a a very zing rhetorical point; the Jews eat it up, but it’s complete fiction. Israel’s first airstrikes in Gaza started at 9.45 October 7th morning when most people around the world didn’t know what had happened. Something like 100 Palestinians inside Gaza died that day, and those were just rookie numbers. By the 12th of October, recorded fatalities in the Strip were 1,417, well above Israeli fatalities on the 7th with probably more or less the same civilian to combatant ratio.

Now, I’m not complaining. I subscribe to the principles of ‘you started it’ and ‘what did you think was gonna happen?’ and the thing is, so did pretty much everyone else. While Israel was pretty much just lobbing bombs, the vast majority in civilized nations were content to let them. They knew they’d do the same under analogous circumstances. Here’s the centre-Left Portuguese President wearily explaining it to some poor Palestinian trying to make him give a toss.

I know, I know you blame the Israelis, but this time someone from your side started it. The Palestinian side started it. You can’t blame Israel, you shouldn’t have started it.

Yep.

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How did it all go wrong? (it’s when you shot up an ambulance)

Obviously, since then, the mood has changed. Most hasbara is just moaning about this, so I don’t need to go into detail myself. A more sophisticated argument than simply trying to pretend that the initial wave of sympathy and support never happened is to argue that it was destined to subside. People are shallow, affected by images. When the image they saw was a rifle-wielding orc leading a women with a visibly blood-stained crotch by the hair they sympathised with the woman’s side; when they see a mangled-up child caked up in concrete dust, they sympathise more with the child’s side. Israel was obviously going to go to war, and the war was obviously going to claim lots of civilian casualties. Israel would get a pass for a bit, but not long enough to win and yet win it must, so it’s too bad; just have to take the hit.

That would be fair enough, though it behoves Zios to be less hysterical about everything and acknowledge that the global reaction was not a 3,000 year-old bigotry mutating, but just natural. However, if a dip was inevitable, there’s a lot of incredibly easy things Israel could have done to make it less sharp and deep. First, there’s like a thousand videos by now of Israeli politicians and media figures saying the most outlandish and deranged murderous nonsense imaginable and all Al Jazeera has to do was clip it, add subtitles, and 10s of millions of people around the world saw it. All those responsible had to do differently was not say that. Literally, just shut up.כל הרמבה דברים מביא חטא. But there’s other stuff too.

Item: On 23rd March 2025 an IDF unit attacked five ambulances, a fire engine and a UN vehicle leading to 15 deaths. The vehicles were crushed and buried along with the dead bodies in un-marked graves. Originally, the IDF claimed the vehicles were acting suspiciously and were not identifiable because they did not have their lights on. Subsequently video footage was recovered from one of the victim’s phones, demonstrating this was false. Forensic evidence indicates that five of the victims were shot at close range in the heart or the head. The unit was under the command of General Yehuda Vach, widely accused of war crimes and general indifference to human life. No Israeli soldiers have been prosecuted following the incident.

Item: On 1st April 2024, IDF drones targeted a convoy of three cars belonging to the World Central Kitchen, one of the relatively few aid organisations that can be said to be reasonably apolitical and not hostile by default to Israel, killing seven. The convoy route had been agreed with the IDF in advance. The IDF admitted violating its rules of engagement and two officers were dismissed but not prosecuted.

Item: On 26th May 2025, a new organisation called the Gaza Humanitarian Foundation (GHF) commenced distributing aid after a two-month aid blockade. The goal was to put an end to the problems of aid being exploited or embezzled by Hamas to maintain its control over the population and its fighting ability. On the 27th May, 11 Gazans were shot by IDF troops outside a distribution site and 62 injured; on the 28th May, 10 were killed; on the 1st of June, 32 were killed; on the 2nd of June, 3 were killed; on the 3rd of June, 27 were killed; on the 6th of June, 8 were killed; on the …. your eyes are already glazing over. Apparently you have that in common with the IDF command who allowed this situation to continue for two months with at least 1,373 Gazans dying outside the aid sites.

Item: On 31st October 2023, an Israeli airstrike in Jabalia killed more than 120 people, the majority being either women or minors. The IDF claimed to have killed a Hamas a commander and dozens of fighters. It did not claim that the strike had proceeded other than planned.

Those are just stuff I recalled off the top of my head and could find easily on Google. Imagine what I could do if I had any emotional investment in Palestinians at all. If we take the most charitable interpretation of all these events, Israel messed up a lot. Of course, muh fog of war, war is hell, just random words etc. I can dig it, but if you are bothered about making mistakes, you put some effort into making fewer of them. Imagine if, say, during the Iran war, Israeli pilots had just missed all the anti-aircraft guns they were targeting and the whole thing turned into a fiasco. Obviously that would be a mistake, but that doesn’t mean you shrug it off because that stuff matters. The army is supposed to be good at doing army stuff; if it isn’t, someone should train it to do better. Maybe Gaza people and aid workers and ambulance drivers don’t matter; I’m not going to moralfag you out about it. But at least don’t retard yourself into not understanding that an average 3rd party observer is going to think they do matter. Not enough to get on a flotilla and spend a night being cussed out in a cell by Yossi, but enough that they think you’re the bad guy, or at least a bad guy.

The next big cope is that Israel’s isolation is temporary because the far Right are going to take over in Europe and only bugmen and blue-haired pansexuals have a problem with killing 65,000 people. The far-Right are already in power in Italy, and the foreign minister declared before our latest operation that it represented ‘the pure denial of the law and the founding values of our civilization’ and our government has ‘lost reason and humanity’, so unless we are holding out for Golden Dawn to go philosemitic, I don’t know what the plan is. Anyway, you get the point.