It's slightly cut in the video, but in the cd version you can hear the rav doing the full kabalot ol malchut shomayim. Personally I think it's beautiful and a sign Israel is heading to the right direction. I know the tznius standards are not to your liking, but it is the twenty first century and religion will evolve, and we have a fossilized version of it for now.
As opposed to you who hate it and are a buzzkill lacking aura and end up being a Fuentes stan desperately grubbing shekels off antisemites who like hearing a frum Jew criticize his own culture for dopamine hits.
I enjoy your scholarly articles. But your cultural hate of ethnic Middle Eastern Judaism makes me wonder why you just don't convert to Catholicism.
Ethnic Middle Eastern Judaism is probably not the best thing ever, but it's a bit moot because it doesn't exist anymore. And it's Zionism that is responsible.
Yeah, OK, probably the difference here comes down to your complete absence of any aesthetic standards whatsoever, combined with your self-admitted breezy lack of concern for idolatry.
I’ve said this before, but you should really do an article about why you believe in Judaism. It seems that whatever your version of Judaism is would be impossible to implement widely, and your belief in it mainly brings you Tzaros. I, being in general an apikores (social orthodox), can at least enjoy the nice parts of Tel Aviv when I visit israel and ignore the stuff that bothers me.
Ok but you would be less bothered by the idolatry stuff, and the fact that israel has a less-than-inspiring form of Judaism. It would be aesthetically bothersome (as it is for me), but not literally something you think they should die for doing. I still think an article on why you believe in Judaism would provide good background for some of your other articles. It doesn’t have to be some 20 page bentham’s bulldog anthropic argument bullshit, just whatever reason you have.
Ok thank you. I don’t mean to be nitpicky, but why does being the first monotheistic religion have any impact on Judaism’s claim to truth? Maybe Avraham just figured out anthropics first and got everything else wrong. If you don’t wanna answer that’s fine, then I’ll stop bothering you about this, you’re not a modox yeshiva rebbe.
Well, I think idolatry is objectively wrong given the premise of monotheism, so a lot of Judaism follows automatically. You also have to worship God one way or another. So, if I decided that no covenant had occured, I would stop keeping kosher and shatnez, but I would still observe much of Jewish law, and I don't think there is anything wrong with keeping kosher etc if Judaism is false. I also think that the persistence of the Jewish people is a moderately strong argument for choseness.
Understood, thank you! In the end I think a lot of individual religious practice stuff comes down to psychological makeup, which I doubt you would deny, considering your analysis of mass Israeli religious delusion.
I don't think what happened in Sdei Teiman was very unusual for a nation in the middle of a war against a shitty enemy, and it seems that there was no keisteing in this case, just beating someone with a pipe so his ribs broke. However, the subsequent riot with government MKs, is not really something you can explain to people. The point was to send a message that IDF soldiers will not be prosecuted for anything, and the point was made successfully.
Thanks for the answer. I dislike people who begin never-ending arguments on my own 'Stack, so I won't do that here, but I will say this if you don't mind. (If you do, just remove my comment!)
I cannot get away with saying that to Americans, even conservatives/realists. We did prosecute the Abu Ghraib wrongdoers. Laws, not men, you know?
And I know what the point was. My point is that a lot of US taxpayers are saying, "You want to be that way? Fine, but not on my dime."
Baruch HaSofer is fine with that. He thinks that Israel can not only survive but thrive away from the "GAE." I beg to differ. But that's just me. How about you? If you think that Israel can survive without American support, I'd love to hear your reasoning, because I do respect your cognitive abilities.
"As the Rambam says, she’s not allowed to study the law in the first place, and there’s good reason for that, but whatever." Are you against women learning torah in general or you were specifically harping on this person. if you are against it, why?
I'm moderately against it. I don't think women should study talmud, but I don't think most men should study talmud and I don't subscribe to Maimonides' Islamic-influenced anthropology. But I just stuck it in because I thought it was funny.
You will probably love Eyal Golans Hachanasas Sefer Torah.
https://youtube.com/watch?v=buiJMlo8Zuc&t=7476&si=ADW7IGa_RaZtu5c1
It's slightly cut in the video, but in the cd version you can hear the rav doing the full kabalot ol malchut shomayim. Personally I think it's beautiful and a sign Israel is heading to the right direction. I know the tznius standards are not to your liking, but it is the twenty first century and religion will evolve, and we have a fossilized version of it for now.
As opposed to you who hate it and are a buzzkill lacking aura and end up being a Fuentes stan desperately grubbing shekels off antisemites who like hearing a frum Jew criticize his own culture for dopamine hits.
I enjoy your scholarly articles. But your cultural hate of ethnic Middle Eastern Judaism makes me wonder why you just don't convert to Catholicism.
Ethnic Middle Eastern Judaism is probably not the best thing ever, but it's a bit moot because it doesn't exist anymore. And it's Zionism that is responsible.
Zionism improved it. Every country needs its American Civic Religion
Yeah, OK, probably the difference here comes down to your complete absence of any aesthetic standards whatsoever, combined with your self-admitted breezy lack of concern for idolatry.
"self-admitted breezy lack of concern for idolatry."
Yeah, I dont think every stupid little thing is idolatry.
Drinking some wine after a goy who is probably an atheist lifted the bottle after opening. ❌
Visiting dead men on their birthday to beseech them for material wealth and emotional support. ✔️
And at least I have respect for my culture and don't make shekels off making antisemites feel good about themselves
You probably make anti-semites feel justified in their opinions.
I’ve said this before, but you should really do an article about why you believe in Judaism. It seems that whatever your version of Judaism is would be impossible to implement widely, and your belief in it mainly brings you Tzaros. I, being in general an apikores (social orthodox), can at least enjoy the nice parts of Tel Aviv when I visit israel and ignore the stuff that bothers me.
If I was an atheist, I wouldn't enjoy Tel Aviv any more than I do now.
Ok but you would be less bothered by the idolatry stuff, and the fact that israel has a less-than-inspiring form of Judaism. It would be aesthetically bothersome (as it is for me), but not literally something you think they should die for doing. I still think an article on why you believe in Judaism would provide good background for some of your other articles. It doesn’t have to be some 20 page bentham’s bulldog anthropic argument bullshit, just whatever reason you have.
I hear. I think the best aplogetic for Judaism is that:
1) There's a wide array of different arguments that point to monotheism being true.
2) Judaism is the first documented religion to propagate monotheism. (Zoroastrianism is not monotheistic).
3) Until the rise of Islam, the thing that distinguished Judaism from other religions was primarily its stricter monotheism.
4) Islam sucks.
Ok thank you. I don’t mean to be nitpicky, but why does being the first monotheistic religion have any impact on Judaism’s claim to truth? Maybe Avraham just figured out anthropics first and got everything else wrong. If you don’t wanna answer that’s fine, then I’ll stop bothering you about this, you’re not a modox yeshiva rebbe.
Well, I think idolatry is objectively wrong given the premise of monotheism, so a lot of Judaism follows automatically. You also have to worship God one way or another. So, if I decided that no covenant had occured, I would stop keeping kosher and shatnez, but I would still observe much of Jewish law, and I don't think there is anything wrong with keeping kosher etc if Judaism is false. I also think that the persistence of the Jewish people is a moderately strong argument for choseness.
Understood, thank you! In the end I think a lot of individual religious practice stuff comes down to psychological makeup, which I doubt you would deny, considering your analysis of mass Israeli religious delusion.
but when we actually do things you go all greta on us and declaim “How Dare You” in a most bitchy voice
and no one wants that
so be happy
Serious question: how do I explain Sde Teman ("keistering") to Mamdani voters here in NYC?
I'm a freefag so feel free to ignore me. But if anyone else can help, I'd appreciate it.
I don't think what happened in Sdei Teiman was very unusual for a nation in the middle of a war against a shitty enemy, and it seems that there was no keisteing in this case, just beating someone with a pipe so his ribs broke. However, the subsequent riot with government MKs, is not really something you can explain to people. The point was to send a message that IDF soldiers will not be prosecuted for anything, and the point was made successfully.
Thanks for the answer. I dislike people who begin never-ending arguments on my own 'Stack, so I won't do that here, but I will say this if you don't mind. (If you do, just remove my comment!)
I cannot get away with saying that to Americans, even conservatives/realists. We did prosecute the Abu Ghraib wrongdoers. Laws, not men, you know?
And I know what the point was. My point is that a lot of US taxpayers are saying, "You want to be that way? Fine, but not on my dime."
Baruch HaSofer is fine with that. He thinks that Israel can not only survive but thrive away from the "GAE." I beg to differ. But that's just me. How about you? If you think that Israel can survive without American support, I'd love to hear your reasoning, because I do respect your cognitive abilities.
"As the Rambam says, she’s not allowed to study the law in the first place, and there’s good reason for that, but whatever." Are you against women learning torah in general or you were specifically harping on this person. if you are against it, why?
I'm moderately against it. I don't think women should study talmud, but I don't think most men should study talmud and I don't subscribe to Maimonides' Islamic-influenced anthropology. But I just stuck it in because I thought it was funny.
2 more 'why's:
1. You are moderately against it, why? (bc of chazal's restrictions? bc it's unnecessary? ideas about intelligence?)
2. You also think this should extend to most men as well, why?