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The new quasi-Kookean meta that you see Conservative Israel supporters use is basically that Israel is a light upon the nations not by being a beacon of peace but by demonstrating to the west how to not be woke and deal properly with Arabs. It is also possible that Israel prevails because they are the only modern economy not self destructing through birth rate decline, although I don’t know if Israel winning the century by default is what Kookeans had in mind

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Slifkin's blog has become repetitive, but that's the nature of chronic problems. The Charedi burden on Israel keeps increasing, and he's one of the few who track its progress and provides context, in a way that appeals to Anglo Orthodox Jews. Anecdotally (the plural of which is anecdotes), his writing shifted my own views over time, and I doubt I'm unusual in that, though perhaps if I was quicker on the uptake it wouldn't have taken me as long. It's less fun than his zoological material but likely more consequential.

As for Zionism: whatever you think of its theology, it worked in terms of at least one of its primary aims. Israel exists, and is the home for over half the world's Jews. It has the fourth highest life expectancy in the OECD

(https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.timesofisrael.com/israelis-life-expectancy-rises-to-83-8-making-it-4th-among-oecd-countries/amp/); it ranks fifth in the global happiness index (especially high among the young); and its R&D spending as a share of GDP is the highest anywhere. You can dislike the music videos, but it's hard to call the civilisation degenerate as a whole.

Any state-building project needs some form of national ideology. The West's own demographic and civic decay stems partly from having too little of one, and you're only too aware of the resulting consequences of mass immigration. Kookian mysticism is certainly out there, but I don't see any real evidence Slifkin actually subscribes to it. He liked a song - you're attacked him for a music video he never endorsed.

His theological caution on Reshit Tzemichat Geulateinu (https://www.rationalistjudaism.com/p/reishit-tzmichat-geulateinu) suggests he's closer to Reines or Sacks than to mystical messianism. That his son's rosh yeshiva holds certain views proves nothing about Slifkin's own positions unless you can show he's endorsed them, which you haven't. That's guilt by distant association masquerading as an argument.

As for his "rationalism": the categorization works better as a heuristic than an intellectual taxonomy, I'll grant you. Yet the underlying distinction remains both sound and relevant. The Rambam is hardly likely to have sanctioned "Torah protects" as a society-level magic spell exempting from civic responsibility. In that respect, his critique of Israeli Charedism is rationalist: it accepts material reality at some level. Climbing on top of cranes is a bad idea given what we know about gravity, which is a start.

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