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'חרד לדבר ה's avatar

>Now, I can already hear members of Charedi Substack feverishly tapping on the smartphone they have a ‘heter for business purposes’ to use to catch me in a lie. Don’t you know that Rav Emden was a kabbalist and believed in the Zohar? It was only the wicked maskilim and academics who took his words out of context to make him look like a sceptic.

Hi there.

I'm still not entirely sure what you believe, beyond that you are the only correct person in the universe. I have noticed you seem to entirely ignore the Vilna Gaon and his students. The mainstream Litvishe position is as far as I can tell pretty close to the Noda B'yehuda. We respect kaballa and genuine mekubalim, but we don't accept the teachings of the Zohar to overturn the Gemara (tefillin on chol hamoed notwithstanding), it's adopted as a system of thought that augments our understanding of Hashem and Judasim [and the wider world] (for example hearing how the mekubalim understand the 4 sections of tefilla has definitely helped me appreciate davening more). Also even today there's some heavy skepticism of the practises and kavanos of the chassidim based on Kaballa and their teachings that originates from that. But Misnagdism is an old and revered tradition and is partially based on the belief that the Vilna Gaon and his students understood kaballa better. But if you think the chassidim today are a threat to genuine Yiddishkeit then you are crazy (my current likely diagnosis).

You forgot to mention that the Noda Biyehuda in that derasha (which is really directed against the Chassidim) condemns the rationalists who excessively rely on their own Daas, and points out in their efforts to explain one problem that's bothering them they end up getting tangled up in many more of their own creation (not mentioning any names). He points out while people who involve themselves in kaballa end up with questionable practices and beliefs those who he terms 'philosophers' end up denying Torah and Mitzvos, I will leave it to the reader to speculate which group he found more objectionable.

Levy Katz's avatar

Did you think כנסיה meant church over there? It just means congregation.

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