There are 14 million Palestinians worldwide, so if half the hypothetical Jewish population of a Holocaust-free world lived in EY, then it would be a bare majority. Thus war and expulsion was inevitably either way. However, I have some further thoughts about the Holocaust and Zionism that I hope to publish soon.
There are 14 million Palestinians worldwide, so if half the hypothetical Jewish population of a Holocaust-free world lived in EY, then it would be a bare majority. Thus war and expulsion was inevitably either way. However, I have some further thoughts about the Holocaust and Zionism that I hope to publish soon.
Well, the best move for Palestine would have been a partition and having the Palestinians accept this partition, but admittedly this would have probably been very unlikely even in a Holocaust-free world. So, war and expulsions were unfortunately inevitable.
Another alternative in a Holocaust-free scenario is to create a Jewish state elsewhere. Maybe had the Germans won WWI, a Jewish state somewhere in Eastern Europe would have been possible? There was an idea flirted, but it wasn’t quite Zionism:
Not really. The population of Syria is 22.1 million, only half a million lower than before the civil war.
In general, expulsion is not a very effective policy. The expulsion of Arabs in 1947-48 led immediately to the formation of fedayeen groups conducting border raids on Israel. Despite their best attempts to deter this up to including massacres, the Zionists were unable to do so and eventually had to occupy the areas from which the raids were being launched. But then the Palestinian paramilitaries relocated, eventually to Lebanon. Again, the Zionists were unable to deter their attacks and eventually had to occupy southern Lebanon, which led to the creation of Hizb'Allah and fast forward to today, 60,000 people can't live in their homes and there is no way of solving it without thousands of casualties.
So, all in all, while it was clearly the case that large numbers of Arabs had to be expelled in 1947-48, it seems probable that Israel would have had fewer problems if it had expelled less, rather than more, and further expulsions are just likely to intensify the problems we already have.
You can buy/rent a used CruiseShip and fit approx 100,000 people on board. Short trip up to Latakia. get 5 ships. its done in a week. Mistake was they weren't expelled far enough. Also dont send to a country like Egypt that has some stability. what's to lose with Syria? If trump wins this could be more feasible than it has ever been. If the Israelis have the guts to go for it. But discussion need to start now.
By using the word Latakia, you are already well ahead of most transfer advocates. But I don't understand how this solves the problem; once in Latakia, they can just travel to the border and start border skirmishes. The lesson of the last 70 years, is that as difficult as the Pals are to deal with inside Israel's borders, they are more difficult to deal with outside.
Well, the Israelis have a lack of *Lebensraum*. At least, they'd need to develop new areas in the Galilee and Negev. And even that probably won't be enough indefinitely.
There are 14 million Palestinians worldwide, so if half the hypothetical Jewish population of a Holocaust-free world lived in EY, then it would be a bare majority. Thus war and expulsion was inevitably either way. However, I have some further thoughts about the Holocaust and Zionism that I hope to publish soon.
Well, the best move for Palestine would have been a partition and having the Palestinians accept this partition, but admittedly this would have probably been very unlikely even in a Holocaust-free world. So, war and expulsions were unfortunately inevitable.
Another alternative in a Holocaust-free scenario is to create a Jewish state elsewhere. Maybe had the Germans won WWI, a Jewish state somewhere in Eastern Europe would have been possible? There was an idea flirted, but it wasn’t quite Zionism:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/League_of_East_European_States
Apparently Jews were 15% here:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grodno_Governorate
Maybe it could have worked as a hypothetical Jewish state in a German WWI victory scenario with enough Jewish migration into there?
I'll also be writing about Territorialism, bli neder.
Why is expulsion not being explored more. Lots of empty houses in Syria
Not really. The population of Syria is 22.1 million, only half a million lower than before the civil war.
In general, expulsion is not a very effective policy. The expulsion of Arabs in 1947-48 led immediately to the formation of fedayeen groups conducting border raids on Israel. Despite their best attempts to deter this up to including massacres, the Zionists were unable to do so and eventually had to occupy the areas from which the raids were being launched. But then the Palestinian paramilitaries relocated, eventually to Lebanon. Again, the Zionists were unable to deter their attacks and eventually had to occupy southern Lebanon, which led to the creation of Hizb'Allah and fast forward to today, 60,000 people can't live in their homes and there is no way of solving it without thousands of casualties.
So, all in all, while it was clearly the case that large numbers of Arabs had to be expelled in 1947-48, it seems probable that Israel would have had fewer problems if it had expelled less, rather than more, and further expulsions are just likely to intensify the problems we already have.
You can buy/rent a used CruiseShip and fit approx 100,000 people on board. Short trip up to Latakia. get 5 ships. its done in a week. Mistake was they weren't expelled far enough. Also dont send to a country like Egypt that has some stability. what's to lose with Syria? If trump wins this could be more feasible than it has ever been. If the Israelis have the guts to go for it. But discussion need to start now.
By using the word Latakia, you are already well ahead of most transfer advocates. But I don't understand how this solves the problem; once in Latakia, they can just travel to the border and start border skirmishes. The lesson of the last 70 years, is that as difficult as the Pals are to deal with inside Israel's borders, they are more difficult to deal with outside.
But Israelis are still afraid of Jewish overpopulation. It’s quaint. Victorian, almost. Edwardian.
Well, the Israelis have a lack of *Lebensraum*. At least, they'd need to develop new areas in the Galilee and Negev. And even that probably won't be enough indefinitely.